World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong Publishes Case Report of Conversation with Witness to Organ Harvesting
This article was first published in December 2009.
(Minghui.org) The World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong is an organization that is dedicated to exposing the persecution of Falun Gong in China and to bringing the responsible individuals to justice. Recently, one of the organization's special investigators had a revealing 30-minute conversation with a witness to organ harvesting from living Falun Gong practitioners. The audio recording and transcript can be found below.
WOIPFG Case Report: Witness to a killing during live organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioner
December 12th, 2009
Case Summary: A special investigator of World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) carried on a conversation lasting almost 30 minutes with one person (“witness”). We have withheld his name out of concern for his safety. With the consent of the witness, the entire conversation was taped. The witness revealed a case of live organ harvesting on a Falun Gong practitioner that he witnessed several years ago.
Event Replay: In 2002, the witness was working for the public security system of Liaoning Province, and he participated in illegal arrests and torture of Falun Gong practitioners. Among them, a female Falun Gong practitioner in her 30s had wounds and scars covering her entire body, after one week of severe torment and forced food intake. On April 9th, 2002, a certain office of the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning province sent two military surgeons, one being a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of People's Liberation Army and the other one being a military surgeon graduated from the Second Military Medical University. They transferred this practitioner to another place (Note 1). Under the circumstances that this female practitioner was fully conscious, without using any anesthetics, they harvested her heart, kidneys and other organs. The witness was an armed police guard by that time and witnessed the entire process of live organ harvesting.
The witness also revealed that, during the period, in which he worked for Jinzhou Public Security Bureau, the then-chief Wang Lijun of Jinzhou Public Security Bureau issued the order of “must eradicate all” in regards to the treatment of Falun Gong practitioners. The witness had participated in the illegal arrests of Falun Gong practitioners and many times severely tortured practitioners in the interrogation process to extract information. Liaoning Province is a region where the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners is very severe. Just the number of Falun Gong practitioner deaths confirmed and published by the Minghui website has reached 406. Wang Lijun is currently the chief of Chongqing Public Security Bureau, carrying on intensified persecution towards Falun Gong practitioners, under the name of “destroying mafia-like underground societies”, in coordination with Bo Xilai, the Secretary General of Chinese Communist Party’s Chongqing Committee. (Note 2)
Note 1: During the first conversation, in order not to expose himself, the witness didn’t specify the location where the live organ harvesting took place. In the second conversation, the witness clearly indicated that the live organ harvesting took place in an operating room on the 15th floor of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region. It has been confirmed that the 15th floor to 17th floors of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region are used for such surgeries.
Note 2: Although lacking relevant credentials and academic backgrounds, Wang Lijun serves as an analyst in the Criminal Law Office of Beijing University Law School and as a vice president of the International Forensic Medical Examiner of Heads and Faces Association. Most of his published papers were forensic medical examination of heads and faces. However, in his official resume, there is one paragraph of description that is unrelated to forensic medicine but to organ transplant: “(he) carried out the first ‘analysis of organ transplant experiment after medicinal injection’ in China”.
Partial transcript of the conversation:
Witness: A scalpel, a surgical knife at the chest. When it cut the chest, blood gushed out. It was gushing out, not…
Question: Is the person you saw male or female?
Witness: Maybe in her 30s.
Question: Was she still shouting “Falun Dafa is great”?
Witness: Yes, still, she was still shouting.
Question: Please describe what she was saying at that time.
Witness: At that time, we had been interrogating and severely torturing her for about a week. She already had countless wounds on her body. Also, (we) used electrical batons to beat her. She had already become delirious. She was already beaten to .... Since she refused to eat anything, we forcefully poured milk into her stomach. She didn’t want to drink, so we forced it down. You know, when her nose was pinched, because of her basic human instincts, she had to drink the milk. Therefore, her life was maintained that way, but she lost almost 15 jin (equivalent to 7.5 kilograms) within seven days. However, we didn’t know at this time, it was possibly a certain office in the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning Province (anyway, it was a very secretive office) that sent two people over. One of them was a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), and the other one was a graduate of the Second Military Medical University. Specifically, one of them was relatively old, and the other one was young. They were doing something to her in an operating room of the mental hospital she was sent to. No anesthetics were used. They cut her chest with a knife, with their hands not even shaking. If it were me, I would be shaking. Although I am an armed police, I used guns, I went through drills with live ammunition, and I had seen many corpses, when I saw these military surgeons, I was really amazed. Their hands didn’t shake at all; they put on their surgical masks and cut directly. At that time, we (armed policemen) were standing on guard with a gun each in our hands. By then, she had already been opened up. Then “Ah!” she shouted loudly once. Then she shouted, saying “Falun Dafa is great”.
Question: She shouted “Falun Dafa is great” when her chest was cut?
Witness: She shouted “Ah” loudly, saying “Falun Dafa is great”. She said “you killed me, one individual.” (I think) it roughly meant “you killed one individual like me. Can you kill several hundred millions of us, people that are being persecuted by you for our true belief?” At that moment, that doctor, that military surgeon hesitated. Then he looked at me, then at our (policemen’s) superior. Then our superior nodded, and he continued to do the veins… (Her) heart was carved out first, next were the kidneys. When her cardiac veins were cut by the scissors, she started twitching. It was extremely horrible. I can imitate her voice for you, although I couldn’t imitate it well. It sounded like something was being ripped apart, and then she continued “ah”. Since then she always had her mouth wide open, with both her eyes opened wide. Ah… I don’t want to continue.
(Certain parts omitted.)
Witness: At that time, this person was a teacher, an instructor teaching in a high school. Her son should be almost 12 years old by now. Her husband was quite incapable (i.e. didn’t have much power or influence). Maybe he was a factory worker. Prior to this, she suffered even greater humiliation. Many of our policemen were perverted. They were using pincers and other instruments, I don’t know from where they got them, to molest her. I have witnessed all these with my own eyes, but I regret that I didn’t take any photos. She had some good looks, relatively beautiful, (so the policemen) were raping her… this was far too common.
Question: This is what you witnessed in the police station where you stayed…?
Witness: I didn’t stay in a police station. I was in a training center, which was the backyard of a hotel. (The policemen) rented ten rooms in a small building. They would do this in a small mansion.
Question: A black jail?
Witness: More or less so.
Question: As long as they are Falun Gong practitioners, they were sent there?
Question: Even before they were tried, they were sent there?
Witness: Anyway, we (i.e. policemen) always change places on short notice.
(Certain parts are omitted.)
Question: You haven’t told me the specific time.
Witness: It was April 9th, 2002.
Question: April 9th?
Witness: Yes, the operation started from 5 p.m. on April 9th and lasted three hours. Before that, it continued for a month.
Question: What do you mean by “it continued for a month”?
Witness: Our interrogation and torture of her lasted for a month.
(Certain parts are omitted.)
Question: Did you torture them once in the interrogation process to extract information or many times?
Witness: Many times. At that time, Wang Lijun, nowadays the chief of the Chongqing Public Security Bureau, gave us the order, “must eradicate all”.
World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG)
Category: Organ Harvesting