1. The first conversation with the doctor
  2. The author (of this article) went to visit his friend Yunyun (alias) in the hospital. When he was talking to Yunyun, Yunyun's friend (a doctor at a city-affiliated hospital) also came. This doctor also joined our conversation. Following is the conversation:

    Author (talking to Yunyun): Have you heard about the live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in the Sujiatun area of Shenyang City? It is so cruel!

    This doctor said before Yunyun could reply, "You just learned about it now? It's been going on since 2001. You don't need to go anywhere else, just go to the 205 Hospital (in Jinzhou). There are seventy transplants a month done there. The price is also cheap. It only costs 30,000 yuan."

    Author: Brother, you are shrewd. How come you know all this?

    Doctor: One of my classmates works at Beijing Medical School. I talk with him very often. In addition, he often came to Shenyang for meetings and participated in the transplant surgeries.

  3. The second conversation with the doctor
  4. The author was talking to Yunyun about the illnesses of a relatives' child (the doctor was also present). Following is the conversation:

    Author (talking to Yunyun): Sister, I want to ask my brother-in-law how the child should go about getting a heart transplant. His disease is very serious and is prenatal.

    Before the author finished, the doctor said, "If it is prenatal, you don't need to do it."

    Upon hearing this, the author said, "I am not sure if it's a heart or a kidney transplant. Let me think about it. My relative said that it could be done in Jinzhou. It might not be a heart transplant. It might be a kidney transplant."

    Doctor: You can bring this child's medical record. I can see if our hospital or the 205 Hospital can do it.

    Author: Brother, this child is very young. You cannot give him a kidney from an elderly person.

    Doctor: All the prisoners in labor camps are young!

    Author: Brother, this child is from the rural area and his family is poor. If your hospital cannot do it, I can ask someone in the 205 Hospital.

    Doctor replied hurriedly: Let me tell you this, you cannot ask too many questions. Otherwise you will be in trouble. (He meant that you couldn't mention "the live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in Sujiatun area.")

    Author: No, no, I won't. How much does it cost for a kidney transplant?

    Doctor: If it's a kidney transplant, it will cost 60 to 70 thousand yuan and you can have it done very soon. (The price was different from what he told me the first time. Most probably this number came after his inquiry. The author learned from another source that it indeed costs about 70,000 yuan in the 205 Hospital). One of my classmates went to Shenyang Army hospital to have transplant surgery. Actually, if you need a kidney transplant, you don't need to go anywhere else. Just go to the 205 Hospital. It is cheap there. Before, you needed to wait for the donor for a long time, but nowadays it is very fast.

  5. Inference

It looks like this doctor has a lot of inside information. According to this doctor, "All prisoners in labor camps are young!" indicates that the source of organs is from the prisoners in labor camps. They are young and healthy.

Usually the prisoners detained in labor camps have their names registered through normal procedures. Their families can visit them regularly. If someone were missing, his family would look into that.

It is known that Jiang's regime and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) started persecuting Falun Gong in 1999. Hundreds of thousands of Falun Gong practitioners have been illegally detained in labor camps, labor farms, and prisons. Most of them were detained without any normal legal procedures. In many cases, their families are not allowed to visit them. Especially for those who refused to be "brainwashed" and are very determined practitioners, Jiang's regime issued the secret order, "Eradicate them physically," "If they are beaten to death, they die in vain or consider them as having committed suicide," and "Don't bother to check their original address and cremate them directly." After Falun Gong practitioners are murdered, the detention centers, prisons, labor camps and even the courts would be in conspire together and shift the responsibility to each other. Consequently no one would be held responsible nor would the families find their relatives among the lies and shunting back and forth. A large number of such cases can be found in the reports on Clearwisdom.net website during the past several years.

From the information this doctor provided, we can infer that the source for organ transplants done at the Jinzhou 205 Hospital and the Shenyang Army General Hospital is from the live organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners.

June 16, 2006